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ColdBlooded -- Raid Chart / Recruitment Needs
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Etubrute
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:31 pm    Post subject: ColdBlooded -- Raid Chart / Recruitment Needs Reply with quote



Last Updated: May 20, 2010

RECRUITMENT HIIGH PRIORITY:
• Holy Paladin
• Resto Shaman
• Resto Druid
• Holy Priest
• Boomkin
• Mage
• Feral DPS Druid

MEDIUM PRIORITY:
• Elemental Shaman
• Demo Warlock
• Destro Warlock
• MM / BM Hunter

ZERO to LOW PRIORITY:
• Combat Rogue
• Retribution Paladin
• Frost / Unholy DK DPS
• Discipline Priest
• Shadow Priest
• DK Tank
• Fury DPS Warrior
• Assasination Rogue
• Prot Warrior
• Prot Paladin
• Enhance Shaman

Additional Notes:
• If you are listed on the LEFT side you are considered a consitent raider with good attendance
• If you are listed on the RIGHT side you are either too new a member, or your attendance is at most, average.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FroggÖ wrote:
We need to start looking for specifics here. Want to come up with a list Help me fill in this list according to class spec, put the them in order from base on what you think their invite priority should be. Only one person in each category, so we know what we need to recruit.
(I stared the class/spec i think we need, only have 20 so far counting three tanks. Give me feedback what you think and what other specs we need)

Tanks
*Prot Warriro Etubrute
*Prot Paladin Xandalanis Dailybeatings
*Feral Druid Hornyhealz

Healers
*Resto Druid Vashkoda
*Resto Shaman Swineflo Nachtleben
*Holy Paladin
*Holy Priest
*Disc Priest


Dps
*Enhancement Shaman Froggo Alkatraz
*Elemental Shaman Murderhappi
*Demo Warlock Hjdj
*Affliction Warlock Adelleda
Destro Warlock Domm
*Shadow Priest Willa
*Arcane Mage Lupus
*Feral Druid
*Balance Druid Starscream
Mutilate Rogue
Assasination Rogue Demiheart
*Combat Rogue
Fury Warrior
*Blood Death Knight Laylanie
Unholy Death Knight
Marksman Hunter
Beastmastery Hunter
*Survival Hunter Excerion Blackbow Sensationalist
*Ret Paladin Pwnstar
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adelleda wrote:
I think wecan put hmmr in there for disc priest..sure he needs a few upgrades but he's good. I think we can also put clarec up there as fury warrior as well.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FroggÖ wrote:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Raid_Buffs
this website shows all raid buffs and debuffs, we need to make sure we are utilizing all of these.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laylanie wrote:
I think we have the warlocks covered. Domm can be destro, BJDJ demo, Adelleda afflic. Domm last week had computer issues so we'll see how that works out.

We dont have feral druid anymore and agree that we need a stable boomkin just incase staar doesnt make it on time.

Definetly need dependable shams period.

High priest turnover, to be expected. We need a holy stat.

Holy pali. now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vashkoda wrote:
Do we really need another boomkin or another resto shaman?

But we do really need a holy paladin and a holy priest (ms)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FroggÖ wrote:
The way that i think that this needs to be looked as is like the following:

1.Importance to raid
Pretty much class/spec. Im gonna try and come up with a list of what 25 class/specs will give maximum raid output then just go down and check off what we have.

2. Attendance
Raid monitor needs to take a look at whos on time and pretty much just take an attendance check. Gonna try and look for a add on for attendance check, gotta be somethign out there.

3. Raiding Rating

I think leaving this to overall 1 person to monitor is to much of a job for anyone. Maybe if we develop a evaluation sheet to post on a forums, and have class officers fill this out for each raider of their class. If not, the n we need to just look for the sore thumbs and remove them accordingly and fill there spots with standby members that will improve the raid comp the best. Also i know willa said somethign about world of logs, this is a good tool and I think we should utilize it, but honeslty meters dont always tell us who the best peopel in the raid is and we really need to keep that into consideration. This is where knowing ur class really comes into play. This is why i still think officiers should take the responsibility of their raid members of the same class.

We need to evaluate what we legitimately have in order to see what we truly need. Some people just don't pull their weight in the guild, and if we really want to maximize our raid time we need to replace these kinds of people. So based on the three things mentioned above i think we need to go threw the roster in order to see what we need for our raid core.

I know this kinda seems hardcore, but it isn't. We just need to find people who are going to show up for the 3 days and get the job done. For the people that can't handle that, we need to cut the fat and put them at the bottom of the barrel. Let me know what you guys think.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for attendance check I use "headcount". It's more for loot then attendance though.

Additionally, Laylanie's DKP addon also shows who was here, what loot was given out, and so on and so on.

And I believe you can export it to excel or a text file as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. before we say what class we need (other then heal and tanks) we need to find out how these class bring synergy to the raid.

Follow the 2 links below to find out more about buffs and debuff these classes bring:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be adding the list of buffs and debuffs on this chart at some point today if I get a chance.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we need to get our classes that we need figured out, and then we need to update them on our homepage. Classing currently being recruited by that chart is pretty much everything. Need to change it asap.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've said before.

I leave them all as OPEN because you never know when a really good rogue, or a really good DK dps might come along.

If you make them closed they won't apply.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chart is now updated with our current buffs and missing buffs.

If you need me to add more stuff just let me know.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question.. Did you want to count all possible raid buffs or only the more powerful if it can be overridden? For example my pet gives a raidbuff of fel intelligence which gives intel and spirit but Mage intel buff and priest spirit buff overrides it.. Side note if you do want the more powerful buff then you need to take blood pact off bc commanding shout is more powerful
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesnt look bad, as far as some of the missing buffs. Enhance cover 2 of them: trueshot aura is overwritten by unleashed rage and windfury totem overrides icy talons. Also ferocious inspiration is overwritten by arcane empowerment which we also have. Only thing we really need is a feral druid. Horny will most likely be around for next week, but needs to regem/reenchant all his gear. I told him i would ask if the guild could supply him with the gems because hes spend alot of gold on his current setup severely need a main spec tank in order to progress. I just think it would be a good idea if we could support his spec change to feral dps by and get him back in the rotation. Just asking for a lil bit of out the huge supply of gbank mats that we have in order to get one of our best raiders interested in wow again.

Also, we need to make sure that we are getting all the debuffs during raid. Something like faerie fire can really make a huge difference in dps, even tho it probably hinders a boomkin's dps.
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